Reverse shift pattern

[Blademan]

I was curious, do you guys who have reversed the pattern do this for track use or simply because it makes your bike different from the norm? I have thought about doing it, but I have been ridding with the niormal pattern for so long I figure I would screw myself up when I change it.

[Calkidd]

It will screw you up. I installed one and hated it, under circumstances where I had to do a quick downshift I found myself up shifting. Very frustrating.

[cbr1000rr]

once you get use to it you will love it. changing gears while in the air is much simpler. also, if your leaned over in a curve you can just tap the shifter to hit your next gear instead of having to wrap your foot up underneath the shifter to shift. its the only way to ride in my opinion.

[shinobi]

different strokes for different folks i believe the saying goes

[Calkidd]

once you get use to it you will love it. changing gears while in the air is much simpler. also, if your leaned over in a curve you can just tap the shifter to hit your next gear instead of having to wrap your foot up underneath the shifter to shift. its the only way to ride in my opinion.

Isn't it common knowlege you don't shift in a turn? Select the gear you want to be in before the turn then shift once your out of it.

[shinobi]

uhm kind of what i thought but wasn't going to say anything.

[Littlebeeper1]

Works great for me, though this is how it came when i bought the engine :D oh and this is the first bike i ever road, so i learned with the reverse gears :rolleyes: must be why noone wants to loan me their bike. I'd always be in the wrong gear. Does anyone know, or can explain how to put it back to normal? hopefully it doesn't involve splitting the damn case.

[cbr1000rr]

cal. if your into the turn at say 10000 rpms and hit the apex and get on the gas what r u gonna do? hit the revlimiter? i wouldnt. i change gears. i guess most of the professional racers ride that way just so they can be different. the best racers in the world use what shift pattern? maybe if you get into the corner at 6k it doesnt mean much but if your really in it its more practical to use reverse shifting. especially if your short and cant get your toes under the shifter while hanging off the bike.

[shinobi]

once again its a personal thing people, some it works for some it don't personally i have seen 3 tracks in my whole riding lifetime and i am almost 24. I have very lil use for alot of the track trickery, hence the reason my blade is mostly stock in engine parts.

[Calkidd]

Okay, first off, I do not nor do I claim to have any experience in track riding or racing. I was merely making a statement, which I believe, that when STREET RIDING you should be in the gear you want to be in before the turn.

if your into the turn at say 10000 rpms
Tell me this, what gear are YOU in at 10,000 rpms in a corner? 1st gear at that rpm would be about 70-80 mph. I can't imaging taking a corner anywhere on the street at that speed.

i guess most of the professional racers ride that way just so they can be different.
Why are you trying to be sarcastic? Did I mention anything about riding on a track or how professional riders should shift? Look at your basic riding booklet from your local DMV. I am sure you will find it saying something similar to what I have said.

the best racers in the world use what shift pattern?
Are you trying to teach me something here?

maybe if you get into the corner at 6k it doesnt mean much but if your really in it......
Are you attempting to attack my riding skills, especially when you don't even know me or how I ride? I know when I go for a ride I enjoying myself regardless how hard I ride. I am really in to it every time I get on my bike.

practical to use reverse shifting.
Like I said, my personal experience with reverse shifting was that I didn't like it. I didn't say no body should have it.

while hanging off the bike.
Like I said I was referring to street riding, not racing.

I am sorry Blademan, I didn't mean to Highjack your thread.

[cbr1000rr]

not meaning to be sarcastic by any means. were all red riders here. like i said if your taking the curves alot slower than they are able to be taken then it does come down to preference. please dont get upset from what i have posted because i dont mean to come across as being an ass. hell, i didnt pay for your bike so ride it like YOU want. just giving my opinion.

[shinobi]

well that was a nice make up speech. I am proud of you :D

[Blademan]

No worries Calkid.

Man that thread was almost as good as the steering dampener thread we had on the old board. Maybe I should throw that question out there again. What ch'ya think?

[Calkidd]

Man that thread was almost as good as the steering dampener thread we had on the old board. Maybe I should throw that question out there again. What ch'ya think?

I think Steering Dampner are for wussies!!!.... :D

[shinobi]

oh boy, :rolleyes: throw a lil gas on the fire :D

[cbr1000rr]

I think Steering Dampner are for wussies!!!.... :D



you must have two of them on your bike then :D

[CharlieHo]

I hate mine!! This new Honda Electronic Shit Dampening device drives me bonkers. Really quick left-right-left turns are more a PITA now.

On my old 929 I'd just flick it through real quick. Of course I had 180's on the 929...

Now we can get started on 180 vs. 190's!!

[Big Kahuna]

you must have two of them on your bike then :D :eek: Ouch!

[Calkidd]

you must have two of them on your bike then :D

Hey, BK.......Let me turn around so you can take the knife out of my back.

CBR1000RR, is this some kind of love hate relationship we have here?

[shinobi]

lol, to truely love you must truely hate, or something, as for the 180 190 what the hell is with huge tires right now, a 200 is as big as any bike should be, and I heard that there was a guy coming to this rally with a 380 no not a 280 a 380, oh fucked up is that

[Blademan]

It is getting a little nuckin' futs . . . even 600's are now showing up with 190's.
I still never got the reason why a factory would build a bike with a dampener on it? Why not build a bike that is not as twitchy and leave it off. Dunno!! I never felt the need to put one on my bike, but then again I have never seen the paved side of a track; just the chopped pavement around here with the washboard and frost heaves.

[cbr1000rr]

im just messin cal. me personally, i love my hesd. have you ever seen someone come down from a wheelie strait into a tankslapper and crash. i dont want to do it. one of my best friends had a rod in his collarbone from a wheelie gone bad. if its too much of a workout to put your 1000 in the curve then go back to your 929. i had three of them and they were great bikes but the 1000 is WAY better. in every aspect. except gassing it in first trying to wheelie it. it loves to stick to the ground unlike the 929. get on the gas and you were up in the air. you have to blip the 1000 a little to get it to loft as quickly as the 929.

on the track the hesd is worthless. for all out quick times you cant have something restricting you like the hesd.

[Calkidd]

I know there were no hard feelings and none taken.

[cuervo brazil]

well, regarding steering dampers I never used one, but some times I felt i needed one :eek:
it depends, because around here we have some roads and streets that are better for a cross or enduro bike than a street bike.
I don´t know turning, but under hard acceleration, when your front wheel wants to go high, and you hit a deformation in the pavement, well boy, you better close your throttle and pray..... :(
I suppose that the electronic sd from the 1000RR should be better than the regular esd that you can buy and put in your bike....?? not sure..
reverse shift pattern : well, I don´t ride too much in circuit, and learned in a regular pattern configuration, so it seams to me that it should be a little confusing and it ´d take some time to get used to it....
When you´re riding, and hit a close turn, you can brake and low gears to have a lower gear at the end or the corner, to have enough acceleration, and with reverse pattern you should go up and not down with the lever, so .....
If you re in a hi speed turn its the opposite, so it depends on what you do, how you ride, and where you do it...
take care and :D

[shinobi]

Your one of those guys that are just overfull of energy aren't ya :D

[CharlieHo]

if its too much of a workout to put your 1000 in the curve then go back to your 929. i had three of them and they were great bikes but the 1000 is WAY better.
on the track the hesd is worthless. for all out quick times you cant have something restricting you like the hesd.

That made a lot of sense...


The 1000 IS much more stable through the turns, but... it feels like a tank going from one knee to the other and back again at full tilt compared to the 929.
Maybe I should just remove the HESD and have the best of both :rolleyes: