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Doright
August 26th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Ok Guy's my dealer took my over priced 95 CBR900RR back due to the case was cracked and leaking oil while running.
(Seams it ate a chain and destroyed the case and some one tride to repair it they didnt catch it but I did after 4 days of rideing!)
Trouble is now Im looking for another bike and looking at the new one's but wondering wich is better im leaning towards the Honda but I really like the GXR too evan told myself I was going to get the GXR.
Im really consernd with wich is a better for cruising rather than raceing because most of my time will be spent driving it back and forth to work 74 mile trip each way with mountains and twistys inbetween the trip avg speed 75-80mph.
I would rather have a good used bike but I hate paying too much for a used one when for a few more grand I got a new one with a warranty 5 years unlimited millage!
If any one knows of a good deal let me know fast
66droptop
August 26th, 2006, 10:07 AM
For cruising, sit on each and see which is more comfortable.
Personally, I'd go with the Gix1k. The 1kRR is overweight and underpowered. Sure, they make more power than the 900s do, but they actually weigh MORE.
Check out www.sportrider.com for specs and times with each bike.
I'd get an R1 though. Fits nicely between the two others, but it's way more attractive.
robwas
August 26th, 2006, 06:44 PM
I tested all the 06 1000's here in Aus and ended up buying the Blade.
It was a close call between it and the Gixer but the things that sold me were the quality and finnish (look at the welds and plastic etc) and the smoothnes and rideability for day to day riding. I found the R1 and the ZX10 uncomfortable but very fast.
A test in a mag here showed the Blade as the sleeper on the track and top of the pile on the road. The test pilot then rode it across the country 3000 odd km in under 3 days and said it felt more comfortable as the trip went on.
It is very difficult to get that sort of feel during a test ride from a dealer but having done almost 3k on mine now I am finding the same is true. The most I have done in 1 day is 450km.
Good luck with your purchase which ever way you go.
gixerkiller
August 26th, 2006, 08:21 PM
go with the r-1 or the blade.
the zx-10 is a pile for commuting its sole purpose is track use
the gixer is the number one ranked bike in the world both street and track ( superbike, fastbike, sportrider,cycleworld, 2wheels only.....need i go on?)
the superbike test was as follows: the location was Bruntingthorp for brake and speed figures, carbontek for dyno and Dunlop's test track at Mireval and a big run around France.
first power and torque *
gsxr 1k 06.......... max power 161.3 @ 11,236 rpm
........................max torque 79.4 @9,120 rpm
honda 1k 06.........max power 157.6 @ 11,332 rpm
.........................max torque 79.4 @ 8,780 rpm
r1 06..................max power 158.3 @12,374 rpm
.........................max torque 75.8 @9,662 rpm
zx-10 06.............max power 164 @11,423
.........................max torque 81.6 @ 7,921
verdict honda 95% yamaha 95% kawasaki 96% suzuki 98%
chassis and handling verdicts
honda 97% yamaha 95% kawasaki 94% suzuki 97%
styling
honda 97% yamaha 95% kawasaki 94% suzuki 97%
top speed
r1.....173.04mph
cbr....168.52mph
gsxr....177.74mph
zx-10...178.34mph
conclusion
gsxr #1
honda #2
r1 #3
zx #4
overall test verdicts
gsxr 97%
cbr 96%
r1 95%
zx-10 94%
(* unrestricted uk bikes hp figure is MAXIMUM top throttle and not true of other regions)
the gsxr is a track oriented bike the cbr is more rider friendly the zx is a hooligan tool and the r1 is almost to bland to ride there are few differences from the 05 r1 to the 06.
hope this helps.
xraycatj
August 27th, 2006, 07:52 AM
I've also known the gsxrs to develop mysterious stress cracks in the plastics under normal conditions. Three people I occaisionally ride with (GSXR 1k's and a 750) had cracks in the upper fairing under the nose or around the windshied and mirror mounts. Could be a fluke but I won't buy one. :CY
When I rode the '06 R1 it felt very strong and stable, I thought a little too strong...
The 1kRR felt more stable, and I kinda liked the slight lack of power lower in the revs compared to my 900. I couldn't feel a difference in weight but maybe that's cuz I weigh 215. :z
I would personally buy an RC51 for my next bike...who cares about top speed!?:EG
Sime
August 28th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Why not look at a 2003 954? They are pretty cheap nowadays, and from what I have read, are considered a better handling bike than the 1000RR. And, 954's run under $6500 nowadays.
The 1000RR has a really long reach from the seat to the bars, so I'm not sure how that would feel on a long trip. But as reported earlier, it's supposedly a comfortable tourer. Best to ride them all.
The 2006 1000RR has been improved a fair bit over the 04 and 05 models, so I read.
Good luck with your choice!
Doright
August 29th, 2006, 01:25 AM
Well guy's and Gal's
I went and found a nice bike at what I think was a good price It has a few scratches from his little kids, more them than him.
Little ones 1.5 and another about 4 they were Bike crazy just like Dady
Any way I picked up a red and black 2004 CBR 1000 RR with 3500 miles on the clock!!!!:EG I only paid 6.5k some may say it was too much im sure but for me it was a steel as I was looking at new ones at 8900 + dealers BS puting it at 11,100 OTD + another 900 for extended warrranty:lh
The thing will have too have a rear tire ASAP but I was able to ride it and it felt good except when driving in turns really slow it felt really heavy???
Might be that the tires were almost flat! there were actual cob webs holding this bike down were it had been sitting for God only know's for how long?
I was the first one too move it in along time thats fure sure.
Hear is a link with a pic that I answerd on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=270021989954&ih=017&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
supermotardrider
August 29th, 2006, 07:19 AM
Looks like you made out pretty good Doright:V
CharlieHo
August 29th, 2006, 08:12 AM
Sounds like a good deal Doright. However, the mileage may or may not be what you think it is, as '04 models had a recall on the speedo. New speedos were installed with 0 miles indicated. I'm not sure where the mark is to determine whether or not the recall had been performed on your bike, but, a dealer will be able to tell you. Some recalls were even done before they were sold, so....
Nice ride!
Oh yeah getting new tires will definitely help the heaviness. I run 180's though,turns in much quicker. 190/55's are another option
Big Kahuna
August 29th, 2006, 08:49 AM
***SLIGHT THREAD JACK!!!!***
Hey CharlieHo, what up bro? Is that you over there at 1000rr.net too?
CharlieHo
August 29th, 2006, 10:47 AM
***SLIGHT THREAD JACK!!!!***
Hey CharlieHo, what up bro? Is that you over there at 1000rr.net too?Yep, i browse around both places.
I spend more time over there 'cause, well.... more 1000's! :)
gixerkiller
August 29th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Sounds like a good deal Doright. However, the mileage may or may not be what you think it is, as '04 models had a recall on the speedo. New speedos were installed with 0 miles indicated. I'm not sure where the mark is to determine whether or not the recall had been performed on your bike, but, a dealer will be able to tell you. Some recalls were even done before they were sold, so....
Nice ride!
Oh yeah getting new tires will definitely help the heaviness. I run 180's though,turns in much quicker. 190/55's are another optionhow do you get faster turn in on a wider contact patch?......i run 180 50 17 race tyres and find it less quick on turn in but much more compliant in the corners.....not so fiddigity............
the truth with tyres is a 180 on a 5.5 inch wheel has the same profile as a 190 on a 6.0 inch wheel. so a 180 on a wider wheel will have a flater profile which would mean slightly less turn in but WAY more stability. atleast thats what dunlop and michelin say.
Stealth
August 29th, 2006, 11:25 PM
I'm not sure where the mark is to determine whether or not the recall had been performed on your bike, but, a dealer will be able to tell you.FWIW, in Aus they put a punch mark on the compliance plate.
Doright
August 30th, 2006, 07:55 AM
I got a dealer in Vegas to sell me 2 new tires installed mounted and ballanced for $219.00 + tax (Michlin pilots? thease any good?:CONF )
Shop had too special order 3 day wait For a new Battel AX and I didnt want to wait too ride.
Didnt really make sence to spend 200 plus+ mount and ballance for just 1 tire on another Battel ax right now any way when I can have 2 new tires for less.
I mean I could have but haveing two new sounds better than one new.
I get too pick it back up today after 11 am then I can put some miles on it!:D
CharlieHo
August 30th, 2006, 10:37 AM
how do you get faster turn in on a wider contact patch?......i run 180 50 17 race tyres and find it less quick on turn in but much more compliant in the corners.....not so fiddigity............
the truth with tyres is a 180 on a 5.5 inch wheel has the same profile as a 190 on a 6.0 inch wheel. so a 180 on a wider wheel will have a flater profile which would mean slightly less turn in but WAY more stability. atleast thats what dunlop and michelin say.180's are 55 percent profile, 190's are 50. Even with the wider rim you get a tighter radius on the tread. Now 190/55's are even better but still pretty pricey.
Swapping stock 190/50 for 180/55 is usually the first thing I do to a bike, especially the 1000 with the damned HESD
CharlieHo
August 30th, 2006, 10:38 AM
FWIW, in Aus they put a punch mark on the compliance plate.Thanks for the info, but, I meant the dealer should have on record the VIN and if it had been changed. But if you can find that punch mark, your good too I suppose :)
Doright
August 30th, 2006, 10:57 AM
Charlie
When I pick the bike in acouple hours I will ask about the speedo deal.
I am kinda confused:CONF about what your saying about the tires, I am more of a Car guy and been out of bikes for almost ten years so Im kinda slow on the lingo but if Im understanding you right the 180 will provide more of a flatter wider rideing surface on the road for the tire? (More contact with the road?)
Its ganna be aloooong while before I go to any track's if ever.
leave that stuff for you guy's
CharlieHo
August 30th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Well, it's just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes (everybodys got one), but I feel the 180/55 tire has a less flat surface. What I mean is the tire has more heighth to width ratio than a 190/50. Granted, the rim width takes some of the heighth away from the 180, but I still think it "falls over" easier. You will actually lose some contact area with a 180) at extreme lean angles, but, noone should be that far over anyway, at least on the street. 180s aren't really supposed to be mounted on 6" rims, but, until the 190/55 become somewhat popular, you HAD to run 180s to get a decent trackworthy tire.
I wouldn't concern myself with tire sizes right now. That deal you mentioned sounds like a good one no matter what size tires they are, get 'em and wear 'em out and then worry about tinkering with ratios after you get some good miles en her and get used to it...
Doright
August 31st, 2006, 12:15 PM
Picked the Bike up yesterday I love the Bike! 80 miles home and then another 70 to work last nite and then the same comeing home today.:D
Tires dont grip all that well in my opinion, I got the rear to spin a few times when it shouldnt have kinda spooky:reallyscared
Thats after I know they are warmed up too! 108 degree's 10 miles into ride.
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