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jusb3
January 27th, 2005, 10:12 PM
hey guys... for osme reason,.. i dont know
my bike dosent hold its line when i lean on a turn..... it like wants to strighten up all the time...
is it my suspension is too hard? i notice my back suspension when i push it down it sorta hard it dosnt wanna go down...
help
no-mercy racing
January 27th, 2005, 11:40 PM
how long has the bike been doing that??i mean was it the first time it did that??do you have a stock front rim (16") on the bike??try to explain more precise what the bike is doing and when is it doing it,and only then etc..or have you made any modification before the bike started to act like that??does it feel like it comes from the fron or the rear?(in most cases the bike will act like that if something is wrong in the front).tire pressure??let me know
fabian
jusb3
January 28th, 2005, 02:08 AM
tyre pressure is at 40 psi...
yea it feels like it is trying to strighten it self up (front wheel) when i lean into a turn..... yes it 16inch....130 wide
everything is stock.... i only got the bike 1 month ago... i always thought it maybe my preload+rebound setting... any maybe also my rear spring... it dose seem very stiff.... like when i push it down it wont go down as much... (like i think its on hard setting)
cuervo brazil
January 28th, 2005, 05:58 AM
tyre pressure is at 40 psi...
yea it feels like it is trying to strighten it self up (front wheel) when i lean into a turn..... yes it 16inch....130 wide
everything is stock.... i only got the bike 1 month ago... i always thought it maybe my preload+rebound setting... any maybe also my rear spring... it dose seem very stiff.... like when i push it down it wont go down as much... (like i think its on hard setting)
Hi
Owners manual front tire pressure is 36 PSI.
if you only got it a month ago, it could be a front bearing problem.
Do you feel something like the direction has a point on it where it stops turning right or left ??
or maybe a problem with front suspension, any fluid comming out?
problem is in goth right and left turns ?
let us know
Take care!
jusb3
January 28th, 2005, 04:58 PM
usually left turn more than right..
ummm what i notice is that more dust collects on the front forks more than usual compared to my cbr250... maybe the seals are leaking?
front bearing..... is it a big problem? what is it?
and no the stearing will steer all the way when i turn slow... its only usually when i LEAN into a turnso i dont really turn the stearing.
thanks
no-mercy racing
January 28th, 2005, 11:38 PM
1.im pretty sure the problem you have is the 16'' frontwheel!!compared to a usual 17" frontwheel the 92-99 blades have a handling like fu**ing tractors and try to straighten up in corners..it feels like something is holding you from leaning into the corner!right??to change the frontwheel to a 17" it takes either a lot of work to make a cbr600 or vfr800 front wheel fit (machining the rotormounts and making new spacers) or it will cost some money (around 700$) for a magnesium wheel (marvic,dymag,pvm etc.).to change the frontrim is in my opinion the first upgrade to make on a 92-99 blade!trust me if you do this modification it will be a NEW bike!however,this is the problem you have i think!about all the other things that have been listet here,they wont really make your blade acting like you described..they will maybe just improve the 16" wheel problem!the only thing i can think of is the steering stem bearing that could be bad too.(but remember if you go around the corner you dont really move the steering..it is still in its middle position while going through the corner unless you go VERY SLOW!!all you do is giving a "signal" to the clip on,to make the bike go into the corner you make the corners just with the lean angle of the bike "NOT WITH THE STEERING ITSELF"...but this is another story).to check your steering stem bearing just get the frontwheel in the air so you can move the steering all the way to each side (you can have another person pulling the bike over the sidestand till its frontwheel is in the air..but this needs some "experience").while the frontwheel is in the air grab both bottoms of the lower forks (right below the caliper mountings) and pull the whole thing forth and back in its middle pos. (fast,ca.2times per second)..if you feel a freeplay in the bearing you will have to adjust it,if you have freeplay and are not sure where,put a finger below the upper triple clamp where it moves and you will feel if there is freeplay,if it's not there,it is between the forktubes and the lower forks) !if there is no freeplay:grab the frontwheel in the front or the handlebar on the outside (left or right side) and move it slightly all the way to the left and to the right..if you feel that the whole steering kind of locks on a certain point/points it needs to be adjusted also or replaced.if it goes smooth and constant through the whole way it is good (watch out not to be fooled from all the cables and brakelines wich also move with the whole steering..you will feel it!!).while the frontwheel already is in the air you can check the frontwheel bearings too:first grab the wheel on the outside of each side (180 degrees apart) with both hands and move it like you did with the steering stem bearing "forth and back" (but in the logically way,axial to the axle)...you will also feel if there is freeplay (make sure the frontbrake is released!) is there freeplay you will have to change the wheelbearings..also turn the wheel slowly all the way around with your hand on the tire and if it feels ruff and makes noises it is bad also..it should turn all the way around smooth!allright,so much to the bearings.now to the dust that you said gets collected on the front fork:check
if there is oil leaking through the black sealing where the forktubes go into the lower forks on both sides and check the forktubes if they are oily!if yes..you have to replace the forksealings!allright now about the reardamper there is a adjustment to lower the spring preload..you will see it,it is on the top of the big spring and can be adjusted in steps (it needs a special tool that grabs the outside of the adjustment ring,wich is in the stock tool kit that comes with the bike if you still have it).if the adjustment is "hard" loosen it in small steps till you think its better.(but there are much more posibilities to adjust the suspension but this would be too much to explain here).so i think thats all we had for right now,is it?if you have more questions let me know and i tell you but if you follow these instructions you will find what it is..and im tellin you it is the 16" frontwheel (it feels really bad if you have driven a different bike before and change to the cbr900).make sure you and the bike are safe while its front is in the air...it happens too fast and you will need new fairings :p
fabian
no-mercy racing
January 28th, 2005, 11:49 PM
oh i forgott,about the tire pressure:more pressure will give you better handling so it would make your problem better but i dont recommend that!!!more pressure=more tire wear and less grip.the opposite occurs with less pressure=worse handling better grip (we are talking of small amounts of below or above 35 psi within max.10psi).but tirepressure is a own story too..racing bike for example have much less tire pressure than streetbikes and also is more pressure in the frontwheel than in the rearwheel (due to the higher negative acceleration than positive acceleration..the braking is stronger than the acceleration given from the engine) unlike the streetbikes,wich have more pressure in the rearwheel than in the frontwheel.a sportbike with "street pressure" would have very bad grip on the racetrak cause...blablabla.....oh well i could write all night long....
jusb3
February 1st, 2005, 02:14 AM
Thanks again Fabian!
good man... i will give it a try
:D
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