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07BladeRider
January 18th, 2010, 10:03 AM
I figured I would make this its own thread, since I'm still having issues. As it just snowed here, I can't take the bike out to do the pad break in.I installed the EBC rotors I got from Mr Scary and new Galfer G1054 pads all around on my wife's 900RR.

As this was my first attempt at pad replacement, I took my time. Everything was very simple.

But the pads seem to be dragging a little on the rotors. These are new pads & rotors and OEM (and 13 year old) calipers, pistons, pad springs, and pad pins.

I cleaned everything up very well with brake parts cleaner. I also put never seez on pad pins, as advised by a friend.

Is pad dragging normal?

Oh, I also changed the coolant, as it hasn't been changes in 13,000 miles. But that's another story.Seems to be. After switching rims, even using the same rotors and pads and everything, they drag/squeak. I've just gotten used to it, myself... :z

But that's just me. Maybe them dragging/squeaking is bad. But they work perfectly fine.I'm no expert.

What I can think of is the brake fluid and the amount of fluid.

Just a though"But the pads seem to be dragging a little on the rotors. These are new pads & rotors and OEM (and 13 year old) calipers, pistons, pad springs, and pad pins.

I cleaned everything up very well with brake parts cleaner. I also put never seez on pad pins, as advised by a friend.

Is pad dragging normal?"

pad dragging? i pulled the dust clips"pad chattr clips" on my ktm they caused pads 2 drag a little... on my 86 vfr 750 the old factory rubber lines caused the brakes2 drag as well.. they break down inside not letting fluid to flow back unrestricted... just some thoughts i see stainless lines maybe check 2 see if they aren't twisted a little"due to reinstallation"I double-checked the fluid level in the reservoir, removing a little, so that it is now about 2mm below the upper limit.

I also checked the SS lines for twisting, as suggested.

With a good level and unkinked lines, the issue still exists. Is it really possibly to install the springs wrong?

When I installed the springs and pad pins, the springs separated the moment the pad pins crossed over the top of the springs, pushing them down.

970rr
January 18th, 2010, 01:36 PM
yeah but do ebc discs and galfer pads have the same thickness as stockers?
(and yes, i do understand that you probably don't have new stock pads and discs on hand)
if the combination ends up thicker, that might cause drag, i don't know...

07BladeRider
January 18th, 2010, 01:45 PM
yeah but do ebc discs and galfer pads have the same thickness as stockers?
(and yes, i do understand that you probably don't have new stock pads and discs on hand)
if the combination ends up thicker, that might cause drag, i don't know...That's a definite possibility.

asphaltsurfer
January 18th, 2010, 02:08 PM
i dont run anything but the pads on any of my bikes... i know they made the brembo's hang a little on my ktm... i believe they are there to keep "pad rattle" to a minimum(i could b wrong) id try ride'n it w/them and w/out them, my 900 has been w/out them for 10k+miles they do rattle a bit but work great.. i got a whole box of em if u want them:Laughs

970rr
January 18th, 2010, 02:23 PM
asphaltsurfer, man, you are hard to understand! sometimes after re-reading, it's ok... but other times... i don't get your lingo either:z

archie
January 18th, 2010, 05:33 PM
i also had ebc's that seemed to frag for months!

07BladeRider
January 18th, 2010, 05:36 PM
But the front wheel won't even spin one revolution with a fairly hard spin.

jawhn
January 18th, 2010, 10:16 PM
But the front wheel won't even spin one revolution with a fairly hard spin.

That don't sound right at all... :CONF

07BladeRider
January 19th, 2010, 07:12 AM
That don't sound right at all... :CONFNo, it doesn't. Do pad springs wear out?

After all, there ARE 13 years old.

ghbzorro
January 19th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Are you sure you don't have a bearing problem, too? MAYBE the noise is from the pads barely touching, and your bearings are stopping the free rotation?

07BladeRider
January 19th, 2010, 10:44 AM
Are you sure you don't have a bearing problem, too? MAYBE the noise is from the pads barely touching, and your bearings are stopping the free rotation?No, it was fine with the old pads. THe bearings only have about 1500 miles on them.

Matt-954
January 19th, 2010, 11:14 AM
I had the same situation on my 636 when switching to HH pads. They just wanted to stay locked to the rotor. I took everything apart several times and still had problems. Some friends also said the same thing when switching to HH pads.

The new pads now have 2,000 or so miles on them (street and track). They behave much better now, but they definitely are finicky on the street. On the track, they work great.