Raising tail

[ghostslider]

Guys,

I raised the tail of my '93 Blade by using he 10mm hole that is located above the 10mm hole in the triangle where it standard goes into.
With "the triangle" i mean the part that connects the suspension with the frame and bridge(see picture).

Question is: can the triangle handle the forces in this new configuration.

Reason of my doubt is that i've never heard anyone about this "easy" way of raising a tail.

[66droptop]

Originally Posted by ghostslider

Guys,

I raised the tail of my '93 Blade by using he 10mm hole that is located above the 10mm hole in the triangle where it standard goes into.
With "the triangle" i mean the part that connects the suspension with the frame and bridge(see picture).

Question is: can the triangle handle the forces in this new configuration.

Reason of my doubt is that i've never heard anyone about this "easy" way of raising a tail.

Did you make the hole, or was it already there? Reason I ask is because there's no hole on mine. I've got a '98 though.

Triangles are the strongest geometric shape since the three sides can support each other without the weakness of larger polygons like rectangles and hexagons. The strongest points to push on or to pull on will be at the points of the triangle. Your new support will be weaker, but I doubt it'll flex, distort, or break. It's a decently thick piece of aluminum (or steel?), and there's two of them to share the load. I think it will be okay. Aftermarket lowering link triangles use different mounting holes in the same way you did so that you can have a couple different settings to choose from when picking the rear ride height. I don't know if they're made from the same material though.

[ghostslider]

Rob,

Yep, hole was already there.
That's how i got the idea.
As if they made it for this purpose.

Bike doesn't handle different and the triangles (mine are made of steel) look tough enough.

I'll keep an eye on it!

Thanks!

[The Bear]

My '93 doesn't have extra holes and it's made of aluminium! Maybe someone copied it in steel so it would be strong enough for extra holes.

The Bear

[Sime]

Nope, mine neither. It's not a factory part with those two holes. The stock part is aluminum (unpainted steel would rust, and the factory part if clear anodized aluminum if I am not mistaken).

As you said, yours are steel, so they're not factory. It definitely didn't come from the factory like that. I question why Honda would go to the expense of making a magnesium rocker cover, only to blow that weight advantage on using steel when that could easily have used aluminum?

FYI, the holes are not indicated in the service manual either. But I am glad the tail mod is working out for you. My tail is raised as well, although not in the way yours is. My tail is raised at the subframe, so the swingarm dynamics are the same as factory. Personally, I like it that way.

Cheers,

[speedextreme]

I like this!!! I might need to raise the tail just a little after the 929 shock goes on the bike??? This is an idea....maybe all I need to do is drill another set of holes.

Someone on here mentioned the "switching" or "rotating" of this suspension "triangle" linkage??? What is that all about and how would that work???

You Geometry majors, use some Microsoft Paintshop and draw and post a pic of how this could work??? I am still confoozald!!!

Thanks

And SIME.....Nice to see you are still up and kickin!!! Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes it down under??? Not to thread jack, but did you get the sssa on yet?

[DCP]

those are probably just aftermarket lowering links, if you put a set of stock ones on your tail should go up another 1"

the lowering links i have seen, lower the bike 3" if you use the bottom hole, and 1" if you use the top hole.

my stock 94 links dont have any extra holes.

[Sime]

Originally Posted by speedextreme

And SIME.....Nice to see you are still up and kickin!!! Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes it down under??? Not to thread jack, but did you get the sssa on yet?

Hey there Speed! Yep, things are good here....we have been having a really mild fall. I have the bike with me but it is still in pieces (for the most part). I haven't gotten the SSA on yet, and neither is the Gixxer 1K '04 tail section completed either. I've been really busy with work and the family, so the bike has been put aside for the time being.

My wife is going back to Detroit for a month on June 11th, so I plan to get everything completed while she's away! I think I'll even wheel the bike into the house so I can work on it at night too! (but don't tell her...she'll crack it!).

How goes it with you?

PS> Oh, and sorry to thread hijack!

Getting back on topic, I believe flipping the triangles must reorient the shock mounting holes somewhat, so it pushes the swingarm downward, hence raising the tail. Drilling an extra set of holes would accomplish the same thing.

Cheers,

[66droptop]

Originally Posted by speedextreme

I like this!!! I might need to raise the tail just a little after the 929 shock goes on the bike??? This is an idea....maybe all I need to do is drill another set of holes.

Someone on here mentioned the "switching" or "rotating" of this suspension "triangle" linkage??? What is that all about and how would that work???

You Geometry majors, use some Microsoft Paintshop and draw and post a pic of how this could work??? I am still confoozald!!!

Thanks

And SIME.....Nice to see you are still up and kickin!!! Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes it down under??? Not to thread jack, but did you get the sssa on yet?

It's a scalene triangle. Just sit and look at it. Rotating it will change the positions of everything mounted to it, and therefore raises the rear.

[ghostslider]

Originally Posted by speedextreme

I like this!!! I might need to raise the tail just a little after the 929 shock goes on the bike??? This is an idea....maybe all I need to do is drill another set of holes.

Someone on here mentioned the "switching" or "rotating" of this suspension "triangle" linkage??? What is that all about and how would that work???

You Geometry majors, use some Microsoft Paintshop and draw and post a pic of how this could work??? I am still confoozald!!!

Thanks

And SIME.....Nice to see you are still up and kickin!!! Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes it down under??? Not to thread jack, but did you get the sssa on yet?

Right, well i did my best!

Here we have the triangle.
By using the extra hole (that only i seem to have) i turned the triangle klockwise.
This makes point A (wich is connected to the spring) go up, raising the tail.

Good luck!

[speedextreme]

Thanks Ghost..... That cleared a lot of the foggy visions of what I thought of out of my head.

Me definitely likes!!!!

Now must remember this thread when I swap out shocks!!!