revised suspension settings

here is a revised suspension set-up list.......this is a STARTING point guys. don't take it as the truth of all things. start here and expiriment.

the 600 series first:

cbr 600f/f-sport

front

comp.....................................3/4 turn out
rebound.................................1/2 turn out
preload/sag............................1 line showing


rear

comp.....................................1/2 turn out
rebound.................................1/2 turn out
preload/sag............................position 6 of 7

cbr 600f-t

front

comp....................................not adjustable
rebound................................full in
preload.................................full in

rear

comp....................................full in
rebound................................full in
preload/sag...........................position 7 of 7

note: 8mm of fork above the top clamp for track use, 5mm for road

cbr 600f-x

front

comp....................................1 turn out
rebound................................3/4 turn out
preload/sag...........................2 lines showing/35mm of sag

rear

comp....................................1/2 turn out
rebound................................1 turn out
preload/sag...........................position 3, 10mm of sag


cbr 600f-v/w

front

comp......................................non adjustable
rebound..................................1/2 turn out (track 1/4 turn out)
preload/sag.............................2 lines showing (track 1 line)

rear

comp......................................1/2 turn out
rebound..................................1/4 turn out
preload/sag.............................position 3

cbr 600rr

front

comp.......................................1-1/2 turns out
rebound...................................2 turns out
preload/sag..............................2 lines showing

rear

comp......................................5 clicks out
rebound..................................1-1/4 turns out
preload...................................position 4

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cbr 900rr-t/v

front

comp...........................................1/2 turn out
rebound........................................1 turn out
preload/sag...................................1 line showing

rear

comp.............................................1/2 turn out
rebound.........................................1/2 turn out
preload/sag....................................position 6 of 7

additional..............5mm of fork leg above the top clamp excludind fork cap/2mm for road

cbr 900rr-w

front

comp.........................................1-1/4 turns out
rebound.....................................1 turn out
preload/sag................................3 lines (12mm of adjuster showing) static sag: 31mm

rear

comp.........................................1/4 turn out
rebound.....................................1/2 turn out
preload/sag................................position 4 of 7, position 3 with a pasenger or if you weigh more than 190

cbr 900rr 2000-01

front

comp............................................3/4 turn out
rebound........................................1/2 turn out
preload/sag...................................2 lines showing (4mm from bottom of preload nut to top of fork cap)


rear

comp............................................full in
rebound........................................3/4 turn out
preload/sag...................................position 7 of 9


cbr 900rr 2002

front

comp..............................................3 turns out (track 1 turn out)
rebound..........................................2 turns out
preload/sag.....................................11 turns out ( 9 turns for track)

rear

comp..............................................1 turn out
rebound..........................................2 turns out
preload/sag.....................................position 6


cbr 900rr 2004

front

comp..................................................2-1/4 turn out
rebound..............................................2-1/4 turn out
preload/sag.........................................full in/34mm of sag

rear

comp.....................................................14 clicks out from full in
rebound.................................................3-3/4 turns out
preload/sag............................................position 6, (8mm of sag)



I HAVE OTHERS FOR ALL MAKES......HONDAS/KAWKS/YAMIES/SUSUKS/DUCS/TRUMPETS.

POST UP IF YOU NEED A STARTING POINT

[Calkidd]

Great thread info...I made it a sticky....

Originally Posted by Calkidd

Great thread info...I made it a sticky....

why sticky? no harm can come from this unless someone brings up octane or calls this thread.......GAY!!!

[jawhn]

Oh. Dear. God.

Snicker.

Um.

That's... Um...

Nope, not gonna go there. But it is important to have the 16" front wheel!

Originally Posted by jawhn

Oh. Dear. God.

Snicker.

Um.

That's... Um...

Nope, not gonna go there. But it is important to have the 16" front wheel!

you frogot the tiger cubs and the special yellow paint.....

[Lucho]

Hey, GixerKiller,
just one question:
this turn outs are from soft or hard side?

[Stealth]

Out...ie it's wound full IN when you start, ie from fullhard.

[Doright]

GixerKiller

What kinda settings should my 2004 CBR1000RR start with for the road?
Also if I take a notch or two out of my rear spring will this drop the rear end a little? the bike is a little tall for me as is.
And if so im sure this will change every thing on my set up right?
Im a short fat kinda guy 5-9 195lbs

[cuervo brazil]

You may also look at the sportrider´s page on internet.
they have all sugested settings for several bikes and years

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...ngs/index.html

you can also find interesting articles like riding skills etc.

Take care.

Originally Posted by cuervo brazil

You may also look at the sportrider´s page on internet.
they have all sugested settings for several bikes and years

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...ngs/index.html

you can also find interesting articles like riding skills etc.

Take care.

the settings i posted are generic track tested settings some are spot on track settings from fusa wmrra and cmmra. the sport rider settings a usualy done by the little japanese guy who weighs in at about 150. his settings are crap for bigger riders and for track use.

good STARTING point but don't ever take magazine settings as absolute truth.......those guys are PAID to promote bikes no matter how crappy they are. this is why the euro mags have such a big following in the us now.

[cuervo brazil]

Oh, yeah.... you´re right....
I didn´t try to make someone using those settings, just putting some info that may help...
In any case, the best way to find the correct settings is to start from stock and experiment changing settings until you find the right one for you... and your weight...
I didn´t know sportrider published info from japanese testers...I thought they´d have their own american/european testers

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Take care

Originally Posted by cuervo brazil

Oh, yeah.... you´re right....
I didn´t try to make someone using those settings, just putting some info that may help...
In any case, the best way to find the correct settings is to start from stock and experiment changing settings until you find the right one for you... and your weight...
I didn´t know sportrider published info from japanese testers...I thought they´d have their own american/european testers

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Take care

sportrider has a japanese guy working for them. as far as the info they post.........all the guys live and ride in southern california.

the only input they get from "proper" testers is the race news.
otherwise it is all watered down american press crap.

at least they don't test sport bikes next to hardley's

[cuervo brazil]

Do you know a bike mag with technical info we could take seriously ??
your 2 cents ???

Thanks gixerkiller, from the southest part of earth.

Take care

Originally Posted by cuervo brazil

Do you know a bike mag with technical info we could take seriously ??
your 2 cents ???

Thanks gixerkiller, from the southest part of earth.

Take care

superbike
performance bike
fastbike
t.w.o
mcn

basicaly mags from the uk ( not france the cheese eating surrender monkeys can't even write good reviews) or japan will give you the best info.......but buy and read at least 2 of the mags....gives you a better grasp on the truth.

[johnnyblade]

My friend wants to set up his r1's suspension now that I have adjusted mine with gixerkillers help .. do you have settings for an 03 r1? he is a bit larger than me he weighs around 210.

Originally Posted by johnnyblade

My friend wants to set up his r1's suspension now that I have adjusted mine with gixerkillers help .. do you have settings for an 03 r1? he is a bit larger than me he weighs around 210.

yeah i should (got aprilla through suzuki) have a base setting for a 160 to 190 pound guy. this would be a starting point. let me check.......i'll post it a bit later.

[ghst]

When I got my 600RR it already had Race tech internals and an Ohlins rear. The bike feels great to me but I ran into the prior owner at the last CCS event. He stated that I should try some changes. The bike is set up for 185 # rider, 200 w/ gear. I really don't wanna dink with it, Hell, I don't wanna crash because of I didn't know what I was doing with susp. but I'd like to see if it gets better than it is.

Advice?

Originally Posted by ghst

When I got my 600RR it already had Race tech internals and an Ohlins rear. The bike feels great to me but I ran into the prior owner at the last CCS event. He stated that I should try some changes. The bike is set up for 185 # rider, 200 w/ gear. I really don't wanna dink with it, Hell, I don't wanna crash because of I didn't know what I was doing with susp. but I'd like to see if it gets better than it is.

Advice?

if i remember right racetech has a set-up guide on the web page. this is the best way to set-up the improved bouncers.

or you can pay a guy to come to every race and set your bike up......$$$$$$.

Originally Posted by johnnyblade

My friend wants to set up his r1's suspension now that I have adjusted mine with gixerkillers help .. do you have settings for an 03 r1? he is a bit larger than me he weighs around 210.

here is the start point.

REAR SHOCK (road)

preload-5th notch out of 9

rebound-3/4 turns out from full in

compression-fully turned in

REAR SHOCK (track)

same as above except preload. track will be 7th notch out of 9


FRONT FORKS (road)

preload-4 lines showing

rebound-3/4 turn out from full in

compression-1 turn out from full in

tyre pressure at 34 front 39 rear

FRONT FORKS (track)

same except preload, tyre pressure and fork height

preload-2 lines showing
tyre pressure 31 front 30 rear.
fork height should be- 3mm above the top yoke


03 R-1 SUSPENSION ISSUES

the front springs are to soft and there is not enough rebound dampening.
recomend new springs for riders wieght and type of riding plus fit new valves in the cartrige and replace the hydralic bumpstops.

the rear spring is a bit weak for "weight challenged" people. compression is weak as well. this makes the bike squat comming out of corners making the bike feel twitchy and/or nervous on bumpy roads.

there is no cure for this other than replacing the unit.

bump for all you too lazy to use the search.