front tire question

cuervo brazil · January 28th, 2005, 05:35 AM

Hi, Well, it´s time to change the stock front tire (Bridgestone)... and as you know in 97 model its still that 16´ front rim.

So I have two brand options here :

Michelin : pilot sport 130/70ZR16 or

Pirelli Dragon Evo MTR21 130/70ZR16
Pirelli Dragon Evo Corsa MTR21 130/70ZR16

and I don´t like Bridgestone a lot

back wheel has a Michelin Macadam X100

wich one is the best having in count the rear tire?
I am not a circuit junkie, so I ride on the roads around and some times (just a few times) in circuit...

The Honda dealer its taking a long time to get the Michelin, because they have to import it (

) and this is what I don´t understand. It´s supposed they sould have al least a few tires in stock... but what a hell, their service is good and i leave the bike and they put the tire balanced and ready , other shops I have to bring them the wheel alone...

Any comments ?
Thanks in advance...

Take care

Calkidd · January 28th, 2005, 01:10 PM

I have been through two sets of Pilots, one set of AVON's AV45/46 and currently on my set of Pirelli Dragons.

Out of all three I like the Dragons the best for their handling. Longevity has yet to be determined.

The AVON's are very close second. This tire has a very deep tread and will last a little longer than the tires mentioned. The grip is close to that of the Dragons but I feel more confident with the Dragon.

This is contributed with the profile the Dragon has to offer. The Dragon has a more radical profile than that of the AVON. The AVON has more of a smooth radius from sidewall to sidewall. This is more so with the AV45/46 due to it being a ST (sport touring) tire.

However, the AV49/50 might be similar to the Dragons.

**Blademan** · January 28th, 2005, 05:22 PM

Hey BK,

Is your buddy still going to be willing to give a deal on AVONs for us boys here from the site?

no-mercy racing · January 28th, 2005, 10:19 PM

under the circumstances you have listet i would go for the pirelli dragon evo mtr21,the corsa is more track oriented.the michelin pilot sport (wich is a very good and longlasting tire,depending on how you drive

)would match better to the macadam,wich is actually a touring tire,not a sportbike tire!!!!however,i dont like avon tires at all..its a personal thing

...no grip,even when warm

!!so its up to you!!if you can get the michelin get it!!if not,go for the pirelli dragon evo mtr21!it dont like bridgestone either!

Calkidd · January 29th, 2005, 02:27 AM

Oh yeah that was another thing about the AVON's...they take a long time to warm up.

I know with the set I had, after a year or so even with ample tread, they got hard and had little to no grip left in them.

**Blademan** · January 29th, 2005, 07:59 PM

That was one question I always had when reading the tire comparo's. When they say heat up time . . . I mean how long are we talking? Are you hittin' the curves within 5 miles or like you really gotta scrub them in first and then again if you take it easy for a bit?

BazMate · January 30th, 2005, 07:10 PM

Yeah, I'm due for a new front tyre too, Probably try to find the Pirellis this time. I also don't like the Bridgstones much.
Let me know also if there's a good deal going, although it'd have to include postage to Oz.

Incidently, what pressure do you guys run in the front?
I was always particular about having 36psi front 42psi rear but I've since upped the front to 38psi and it feels a lot nicer in the bends.

Baz

Calkidd · January 30th, 2005, 10:35 PM

38/42 is what I run.

cuervo brazil · January 31st, 2005, 02:57 AM

Hey, thanks a lot for the comments.
I run 36 front.
Well, I think I ´ll go with the Pirelli, let you know.
The Macadam wasn´t a choice, but a need.
I brougth the bike to Brasil from Argentina (1250 kms) and at the middle of the trip, the rear Bridgestone was dead, so as soon as I got to my home I went to Michelin´s shop and the only tire I found was that Macadam.
I ´ll try to get that Pirelli front and change for a Pirelli rear as soon as my Maca dies.

Tks and take care!

**Big Kahuna** · February 1st, 2005, 01:28 PM

The Avon 45/46 is the best tire I've ridden on, hands down. I did not experience any of what Calkidd speaks of regarding warm up time or slippage. Come to think of it, I don't remember the tire ever slipping out from under me.

I'm currently running the BT-014, it's a pretty good tire but do does slip a lot more than the Avon's. Haven't tried the Parelli's as they don't make a 16" front, so I'm going back to the Avon's this summer.

As for deals on Avon's, I don't have the hookup anymore. Let me check around and see what I can dig up. I got an email the other day from a site that will offer a 5% discount to out SBR visitors, but I'm going to try to get it up to at least 10%.

Oh, and they last a real long time, over 8,500+ for me. Even when run for months while over inflated due to a bad tire pressure gauge.

January 28th, 2005, 05:35 AM	#1
cuervo brazil RRzone Elite Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cachoerinha, Brazil Posts: 146 Bikes: CBR900RRV97 yellow - Yamaha Axis 90CC 1992 black	front tire question Hi, Well, it´s time to change the stock front tire (Bridgestone)... and as you know in 97 model its still that 16´ front rim. So I have two brand options here : Michelin : pilot sport 130/70ZR16 or Pirelli Dragon Evo MTR21 130/70ZR16 Pirelli Dragon Evo Corsa MTR21 130/70ZR16 and I don´t like Bridgestone a lot back wheel has a Michelin Macadam X100 wich one is the best having in count the rear tire? I am not a circuit junkie, so I ride on the roads around and some times (just a few times) in circuit... The Honda dealer its taking a long time to get the Michelin, because they have to import it ( ) and this is what I don´t understand. It´s supposed they sould have al least a few tires in stock... but what a hell, their service is good and i leave the bike and they put the tire balanced and ready , other shops I have to bring them the wheel alone... Any comments ? Thanks in advance... Take care __________________ Don´t ask me how fast I go, ask me how far I brake.

January 28th, 2005, 01:10 PM	#2
Calkidd RRzone Elder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Clovis, Ca Posts: 2,904 Bikes: '01 CBR 929...Bumble Bee style	Re: front tire question I have been through two sets of Pilots, one set of AVON's AV45/46 and currently on my set of Pirelli Dragons. Out of all three I like the Dragons the best for their handling. Longevity has yet to be determined. The AVON's are very close second. This tire has a very deep tread and will last a little longer than the tires mentioned. The grip is close to that of the Dragons but I feel more confident with the Dragon. This is contributed with the profile the Dragon has to offer. The Dragon has a more radical profile than that of the AVON. The AVON has more of a smooth radius from sidewall to sidewall. This is more so with the AV45/46 due to it being a ST (sport touring) tire. However, the AV49/50 might be similar to the Dragons. __________________ CalKidd "Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar" - Mark Twain

January 28th, 2005, 05:22 PM	#3
Blademan RRzone Elder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Barre, Vermot Posts: 1,973 Bikes: 2006 CBR1000RR -- had 1999 CBR 900 Black, 1995 CBR 600F3, Had 1985 Interceptor 500	Re: front tire question Hey BK, Is your buddy still going to be willing to give a deal on AVONs for us boys here from the site? __________________ When life hands you lemons . . . cut'em up . . . put'em in a Corona . . . and drink. Problem solved !!

January 28th, 2005, 10:19 PM	#4
no-mercy racing RRzone Elder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: switzerland (basel) Posts: 406 Bikes: cbr900rr '94,cbr900rr '97 streetfighter,cbr900rr '99 racing,cbr900rr '98 stuntbike,cbr dragbike	Re: front tire question under the circumstances you have listet i would go for the pirelli dragon evo mtr21,the corsa is more track oriented.the michelin pilot sport (wich is a very good and longlasting tire,depending on how you drive )would match better to the macadam,wich is actually a touring tire,not a sportbike tire!!!!however,i dont like avon tires at all..its a personal thing ...no grip,even when warm !!so its up to you!!if you can get the michelin get it!!if not,go for the pirelli dragon evo mtr21!it dont like bridgestone either!

January 29th, 2005, 02:27 AM	#5
Calkidd RRzone Elder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Clovis, Ca Posts: 2,904 Bikes: '01 CBR 929...Bumble Bee style	Re: front tire question Oh yeah that was another thing about the AVON's...they take a long time to warm up. I know with the set I had, after a year or so even with ample tread, they got hard and had little to no grip left in them. __________________ CalKidd "Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar" - Mark Twain

January 29th, 2005, 07:59 PM	#6
Blademan RRzone Elder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Barre, Vermot Posts: 1,973 Bikes: 2006 CBR1000RR -- had 1999 CBR 900 Black, 1995 CBR 600F3, Had 1985 Interceptor 500	Re: front tire question That was one question I always had when reading the tire comparo's. When they say heat up time . . . I mean how long are we talking? Are you hittin' the curves within 5 miles or like you really gotta scrub them in first and then again if you take it easy for a bit? __________________ When life hands you lemons . . . cut'em up . . . put'em in a Corona . . . and drink. Problem solved !!

January 30th, 2005, 07:10 PM	#7
BazMate Not been here that long Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 21 Bikes: '99 CBR900RR	Re: front tire question Yeah, I'm due for a new front tyre too, Probably try to find the Pirellis this time. I also don't like the Bridgstones much. Let me know also if there's a good deal going, although it'd have to include postage to Oz. Incidently, what pressure do you guys run in the front? I was always particular about having 36psi front 42psi rear but I've since upped the front to 38psi and it feels a lot nicer in the bends. Baz

January 30th, 2005, 10:35 PM	#8
Calkidd RRzone Elder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Clovis, Ca Posts: 2,904 Bikes: '01 CBR 929...Bumble Bee style	Re: front tire question 38/42 is what I run. __________________ CalKidd "Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar" - Mark Twain

January 31st, 2005, 02:57 AM	#9
cuervo brazil RRzone Elite Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cachoerinha, Brazil Posts: 146 Bikes: CBR900RRV97 yellow - Yamaha Axis 90CC 1992 black	Re: front tire question Hey, thanks a lot for the comments. I run 36 front. Well, I think I ´ll go with the Pirelli, let you know. The Macadam wasn´t a choice, but a need. I brougth the bike to Brasil from Argentina (1250 kms) and at the middle of the trip, the rear Bridgestone was dead, so as soon as I got to my home I went to Michelin´s shop and the only tire I found was that Macadam. I ´ll try to get that Pirelli front and change for a Pirelli rear as soon as my Maca dies. Tks and take care! __________________ Don´t ask me how fast I go, ask me how far I brake.

February 1st, 2005, 01:28 PM	#10
Big Kahuna Administration Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oakhurst, CA Posts: 1,272 Bikes: 2005 Honda CBR1000RR, 1998 Honda CBR900RR, 2007 Hyosung GT250R	Re: front tire question The Avon 45/46 is the best tire I've ridden on, hands down. I did not experience any of what Calkidd speaks of regarding warm up time or slippage. Come to think of it, I don't remember the tire ever slipping out from under me. I'm currently running the BT-014, it's a pretty good tire but do does slip a lot more than the Avon's. Haven't tried the Parelli's as they don't make a 16" front, so I'm going back to the Avon's this summer. As for deals on Avon's, I don't have the hookup anymore. Let me check around and see what I can dig up. I got an email the other day from a site that will offer a 5% discount to out SBR visitors, but I'm going to try to get it up to at least 10%. Oh, and they last a real long time, over 8,500+ for me. Even when run for months while over inflated due to a bad tire pressure gauge. __________________ *If you can't find anything nice to say… Don't say anything nice at all.*

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