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    Default Re: SSSA Conversion, and blackbird conversion

    im not positive, but im pretty sure I read that the SSS was a good bit heavier than the stock swingarm.

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    Default Re: SSSA Conversion, and blackbird conversion

    I have both in the garage, I'll weigh them when i get home and report back.

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    Default Re: SSSA Conversion, and blackbird conversion

    Stock '94 swingarm with bearings, no caliper or bracket:11 pounds
    VFR SSSA no bearings: 11lbs. Start adding hub, bearing carrier, sprocket etc and easily in the 22lb range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maaak928 View Post
    Stock '94 swingarm with bearings, no caliper or bracket:11 pounds
    VFR SSSA no bearings: 11lbs. Start adding hub, bearing carrier, sprocket etc and easily in the 22lb range.
    Wow, added some weight.

    Hope it will take 40 more pounds with the motor in it.

    plus with no extension, and a 13/45 tooth set up.

    Its ganna be hard to keep that front end down

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    Default Re: SSSA Conversion, and blackbird conversion

    so roughly 55# more than stock with the engine and swingarm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOTASON View Post
    Wow, added some weight.

    Hope it will take 40 more pounds with the motor in it.

    plus with no extension, and a 13/45 tooth set up.

    Its ganna be hard to keep that front end down
    You can tell the extra weight is there sitting on bike and leaning side to side. But it's low and kinda forward feeling, no big deal at all. And you will definitely have trouble keeping front wheel on ground I promise you. Just guesstimating...3rd gear power wheelies with extreme ease.
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    what did you do about the suspension with all the added weight? had them re springed and revalved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbr900racer77 View Post
    You can tell the extra weight is there sitting on bike and leaning side to side. But it's low and kinda forward feeling, no big deal at all. And you will definitely have trouble keeping front wheel on ground I promise you. Just guesstimating...3rd gear power wheelies with extreme ease.

    I might have to gear it down. not!!!!

    I rebuilt the rear shock a year ago, and I just went through the forks a few months back. so they should be good.

    Im just ganna have to play it by feel, if i dont like the way its droping and holding the corner I might change the springs/forks etc...

    I dont want to lose my twistie killen abilty

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    OKAY!!! So i get it all done and wraped up, new sprockets ,chain ,braided brake line, new brake pads and the new rec/reg. im out in kamas going up the canyon and snap raaaaaaaaaaaa ra ra, master link broke.I was lucky we were headed back. stopped and grabed my pretty red chain and began my coast back down. I rolled all the way back to town. Other than that it was great, very smooth.

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    If the rec/reg goes out can it take the stator with it? my stators not even six months old, resistance is .1 on all wires

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    Alot of the Blackbird motor's extra weight is in the form of 2 counterbalancers. Over the winter those puppies are getting ripped outta there. I rode my buddy's with them out and it was still a pretty smooth motor. It revved ALOT quicker than mine. I'm still debating on putting a 2mm kit in it. I never really got full potential out of the stock bore so I may just do the balancers and try it one more season stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbr900racer77 View Post
    Alot of the Blackbird motor's extra weight is in the form of 2 counterbalancers. Over the winter those puppies are getting ripped outta there. I rode my buddy's with them out and it was still a pretty smooth motor. It revved ALOT quicker than mine. I'm still debating on putting a 2mm kit in it. I never really got full potential out of the stock bore so I may just do the balancers and try it one more season stock.
    will taking them out destroy the motor slowly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOTASON View Post
    will taking them out destroy the motor slowly?

    I've never heard one negative thing said about removing them. Even guys that just cruise on their Birds swear by removing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbr900racer77 View Post
    I've never heard one negative thing said about removing them. Even guys that just cruise on their Birds swear by removing them.
    and it makes it rev quicker? I will be doing that. as long as it doesnt destroy my motor quicker then I can


    I cant remember but 48.8 ac volts @ 5000 rpm from all three stator wires is bad right? stators junk?

    I will search for that fault chart.im pretty sure its bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOTASON View Post
    and it makes it rev quicker? I will be doing that. as long as it doesnt destroy my motor quicker then I can


    I cant remember but 48.8 ac volts @ 5000 rpm from all three stator wires is bad right? stators junk?

    I will search for that fault chart.im pretty sure its bad.
    fault chat says, if the three readings are not equal or one of them is below 50 volts(ac)---stator is bad.

    I called williecycles where I purchased it 6 months ago and the guys telling me that 2 volts donesnt matter?

    okay so whos wrong the chart or the guy?

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    Default Re: SSSA Conversion, and blackbird conversion

    What is your voltage across the terminals when idling and at ~3500 rpm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maaak928 View Post
    What is your voltage across the terminals when idling and at ~3500 rpm?
    I did do it @ 3500 rpm, it was at 5000 rpm, they all read 48.8. thats what the chart told me to do.

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    Sorry for the confusion, I was asking about the battery voltage. I guess that's tough to measure with a fried r/r though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maaak928 View Post
    Sorry for the confusion, I was asking about the battery voltage. I guess that's tough to measure with a fried r/r though.
    I got a new r/r a week ago.I understand what you asking now. The batt was fully charged @ 13.01, started bike and it dropped to 9.88 for a sec and then went to 12.86 and slowly rised untill it stopped at 12.98 @ 5000 rpms, the chart said to take it to 5000rpms.

    what do you think?

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    Not bad for idle. What's voltage at 3500 rpm's? You should see that brief drop during cranking.

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